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Andrew Hyslop – where did you come from, where did you go?

I am going to explain this as clearly as I can, but it won’t be easy and I fear it won’t be interesting, but at least I will have the mystery written down, if only for myself to return to at some future date.

So my GGG Grandfather is Andrew Hyslop. I know this because my Great Great Grandmother Mary Hyslop’s death certificate shows her parents to be Andrew Hyslop and Flora Swan.

Andrew can be found in the 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses with Flora and some of his family:

In 1851 he is living in Springholm with wife and 8 day old baby Mary, well he would be but he appears to be absent, poor Flora.

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In 1861 he is living in Tynwald with Flora, Mary, son James and daughters Flora and Henrietta. He is listed as a ploughman, Mary was born in Urr, James in Irongray and Flora and Henrietta in Torthorwald.

1861 Andrew Hyslop

In 1871 Andrew is living in Lauder Hook Cottage in Dryfesdale with Flora, daughter Jessie and Granddaughter Mary Stevenson my Great Grandmother. Andrew’s occupation is now farm servant.

Andrew Hyslop 1871

There is one more record of Andrew that I am sure of, sadly it is a year later and is his wife Flora’s death certificate. Andrew’s occupation is again given as ploughman and he is witness to the death (possibly his writing on the record).

Flora Swan Hyslop death

After that Andrew disappears, I can find no death for him that I am absolutely sure of, which means I can’t find his parents.

For some time I was misled by other trees that had him remarrying a Mary Carson which made his mother a Margaret Shaw, but the marriage record shows Mary Carson to marry a bachelor not a widow and Margaret Shaw’s son Andrew is on another 1871 census at the same time Andrew can be found living with Flora. So my Andrew did not remarry Mary Carson.

This may be Andrew in 1881. He has lost three to four years in age with a birth date of 1829, but the occupation of farm servant seems correct and he is described as a widower.

Andrew Hyslop at Penlaw

The only possible entry for 1891 is in Dalbeattie and has Andrew born in 1817, so losing eight years from the earlier censuses and a seemingly impossible 12 years from the 1881 census, but perhaps his age was just guessed? His occupation is described as general labourer and again he is a widower.

It seems unlikely to be him but this is the only one that ties with a more likely death for our Andrew, rather frustratingly it gives neither widow nor parents’ name. The death certificate is witnessed by a neighbour, it is clearly the same person as in 1891 and occupation is described as agricultural labourer, he has lost a year or two in age!

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If this is Andrew, it is sad that he seemingly dies alone after having at least five children. However, my ancestor Mary died years earlier, daughters Jessie and Henrietta went to Canada and the States, daughter Flora however was nearby, perhaps they fell out! Son James also disappears from records.

So we have a possible death for Andrew but where did he come from? Without the usual help you get from the death records in Scotland and a marriage that does not include parents’ names it is hard to say. The most likely parents through a process of elimination are James Hyslop and Jane/Jean Dickson which makes Andrew, Andrew Blyth Hyslop. I can find no records of Andrew Blyth Hyslop apart from his baptism.

If this is the case then going back a further generation Jane/Jean’s parents are John Dickson and Margaret McNaught, this can be seen from Jane/Jean’s death certificate. The document also shows that her husband predeceased her.

The McNaught connection is particularly interesting to me because I am descended from McNaughts through another branch. Andrew Hyslop’s daughter Mary married William Gibson Stevenson (Red Rob) whose mother was a Jean McNaught. Were Mary and William distant cousins? It is possible, I certainly have McNaught in my DNA – maybe a double dose. Unfortunately Margaret McNaught was born before any easily obtainable records so I am unable to find out.

Jane Dickson death 1865 (2)

So if anyone knows more about Andrew Blyth Hyslop, is he my ancestor? I would love to know, I am sure the answer is out there somewhere.

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52 ancestors – Mary Hyslop/Stevenson

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Swanland, Urr Mary Hyslop’s birthplace

I know little about Mary Hyslop as she only lived until she was 19 years old when she died giving birth to my Great Grandmother Mary Hyslop Stevenson. Mary was the daughter of Andrew Hyslop and Flora Swan. We find her in the Scottish census in Urr Kirkcudbrightshire in 1851 just 8 days old, she must have been her parents’ eldest child. By 1861 she has been joined by siblings James, Flora and Henrietta and is living in Tinwald Dumfriesshire. She married William Gibson Stevenson (Red Rob) in 1868 and died on 10 July 1870 at Kirkbean Kirkcudbrightshire.

 
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Posted by on January 25, 2015 in Uncategorized

 

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52 Ancestors – William Swan

William Swan is my Great x 4 Grandfather, he was born in Kirkmahoe, Dumfriesshire in 1793 and died in 1858 from heart disease and general dropsy, he was a Gamekeeper.

The Swans of Kirkmahoe appear to have been Covenanters, strict Presbyterians who believed that God, not the monarch, was head of the church, they were opposed to the “Divine Right of Kings”. It seems they were persecuted for some centuries, many fleeing to Ireland and then later to the USA. All connected up with the border conflicts, opposition to Catholicism and the English Civil War. I had always thought the Irish came to Scotland, but it seems it works the other way too, perhaps many came back.

There was a William Swan who was a hero among the Covenanters, I can’t trace how we are descended from him, but presume there is some connection, he seems something of an actor, contriving an argument with his wife to throw the army off the scent of a covenanter hidden in his barn.

William Swan and the Covenanters.

William Swan and the Covenanters.

Our William Swan was married to Mary Beck and was father to my Gt Gt Gt Grandmother Flora Swan, John Swan, James Swan and Jane Ann McAlpin Swan. James followed his mother’s brother out to the USA and formed a very successful tool making company there.

I understand the Covenanters who went out to the USA were opposed to slavery and in 1800 the Reformed Church voted to outlaw slave-holding among its members.

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